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Naomi O'Brian and Miyuki Haneda by Kira-Tsubasafan Naomi O'Brian and Miyuki Haneda by Kira-Tsubasafan
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This is a "What if" situation based on what I wrote in my fic. In this case, this is what it would look like if 1) Naomi joins the JASDF after the manga storyline and 2) Miyuki Haneda gets transferred to another squadron along with her friends from the 801st TTS. That's why there's an F-22 and a MiG-29 in JASDF colors.

Enjoy! :)
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Persona22 Featured By Owner Edited Sep 27, 2014
I didn't read your fic, but I do have to wonder: How does Naomi "get off" from serving her sentence by doing high risk missions? Why would the JASDF hire her after she shot down a Japanese pilot over Tokyo (okay, he was a rouge pilot, but still)? And why would the JASDF have a Russian MiG-29, or even more rare, an F-22 Raptor which the US government has a special legislation in which the aircraft cannot be exported?
Do those question get answered in the fic?
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014
Well, this was a while ago, but I'll try to answer the questions. The JASDF pilot was shot at by Naomi, but not enough to be killed or anything. Like it was mentioned in the story, he was found out. Later, he crashed because his ejection system was sabotaged to leave no witness of the other group's involvement.

In the original manga, it was said that 5 years would be deduced from Naomi's 1,000-year sentence for each dangerous mission she takes part in. It reminds me of Area 88 where the protagonist is buying his own freedom by earning money after each mission. In my fic, it was indicated that Naomi asked for asylum after that final mission over Tokyo, so she probably managed to keep her MiG-29 in an undisclosed location while Japanese authorities spread the rumor it was shot down.

When I wrote the fic a few years ago, there were strong rumors that the Japanese government could buy at the very least some F-22s. Even though the US government put a ban on exporting the F-22, I always felt that Japan would be better off with a few of those... although the ATD-X prototypes will make up for that soon.
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Persona22 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014
Well, this was a while ago, but I'll try to answer the questions. The JASDF pilot was shot at by Naomi, but not enough to be killed or anything. Like it was mentioned in the story, he was found out. Later, he crashed because his ejection system was sabotaged to leave no witness of the other group's involvement.

Yes, that makes sense. But the Manga ends before we find out if he dies or not, so either way you choose to do it would be fine.

In the original manga, it was said that 5 years would be deduced from Naomi's 1,000-year sentence for each dangerous mission she takes part in. It reminds me of Area 88 where the protagonist is buying his own freedom by earning money after each mission. In my fic, it was indicated that Naomi asked for asylum after that final mission over Tokyo, so she probably managed to keep her MiG-29 in an undisclosed location while Japanese authorities spread the rumor it was shot down.

Hmm... I don't know if Japan would be willing to give political assylum to Naomi since her crime was terrorism. And she's a Nikkei, not fully Japanese.
But the keeping her MiG-29 does sound kind of cool, especially since Japan does their own modifications to foreign planes, like the F-4J or the F-15J, and in some cases the modifications are so much that they become brand new planes like the F-2, which is an F-16 with new avionics and wings. I wonder what a MiG-29J would be like?

When I wrote the fic a few years ago, there were strong rumors that the Japanese government could buy at the very least some F-22s. Even though the US government put a ban on exporting the F-22, I always felt that Japan would be better off with a few of those... although the ATD-X prototypes will make up for that soon.

If the USA allows for Japan to get F-22s, then I'm pretty sure Israel and South Korea will get them too.
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RDFAF Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2012
Hell, why not make the 801st a TFS, makes things simplier, and have Naomi join the Airbats for the mix.
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012
I thought about that, but the 801st was always a little short in equipment for the girls' ambitions of becoming full-time fighter pilots. Furthermore, the home base in Iruma is not the place for having tactical fighter squadrons. And besides, the later stages of Naomi's story in Red Prowling Devil happened at Hyakuri Air Base, home of the 302nd TFS and 305th TFS. I'm such a freak about facts. ;)

I'd call it a step further in career progress for everyone from the 801st. After all, since all members of the original 801st are still together, it's as if not much has changed except Naomi joining them for THAT special assignment.
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RDFAF Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012
Yeah, I hear ya. I've read your fanfic...sensational. Definitely something I want to see a sequel in.
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Passin Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012
Cool
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2012
Thanks for the comment and the fav. :)
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Unleashed-Stories Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Old-school anime, i guess... Pretty good, yeah!!
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
Thanks!

Miyuki Haneda comes from old-school anime/manga series, 801st TTS Airbats. Naomi comes from a manga drawn and written by the same author 10-12 years ago.
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Unleashed-Stories Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:iconblinkblinkplz: so they`re not OCs?
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
Nope. ;)
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Unleashed-Stories Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:iconinglipplz: DEAR GOD!!!!
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Ronin201 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012
The Fulcrum looks pretty good in SDF colors
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012
Thanks for the comment and the fav! :D

I'm a big fan of that blue camouflage pattern in the JASDF. Any plane would look good with that.
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Ronin201 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012
no prob, r the pilots ur ocs or canon?
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012
Both pilots originally come from 2 manga stories by Toshimitsu Shimizu. Naomi O'Brian is the protagonist in The Red Prowling Devil and Miyuki Haneda comes from 801st TTS Airbats.

Both pilots are a part of a huge crossover fanfic I wrote on fanfiction(dot)net under the username KiraYamatoFan. In that fic, both pilots fight together for the JASDF against Russian ultranationalists and North Koreans. Naomi flies a trademark MiG-29 in the manga, hence why it appears here. ;)
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Ronin201 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
cool
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Panzerfire Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Cool stuff.

Did you hear that the JASDF has finally decided to purchase some 40-50 F-35As?

Just saying. Good stuff, love how you drew the fighters. Keep up.
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012
Yeah, I read about it. From what I read, the F-35 is getting really controversial in all countries which are supposed to buy it (including Canada). They should have stuck with the F-22, which is IMHO way better in terms of deserving the money spent on it.
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Panzerfire Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The way I see it, The F-35 (In all its variants) it's a scam designed by the American Military Industrial complex in order to steal the American and European Tax payers money. The F-35 has been deliberately made with numerous flaws that require re-design, new materials and softaware being developed and the cost per unit skyrocket. It also has as a secondary but no less important goal, to sabotage the development of a European 5th generation fighter and therefore avoid further competition in the 5th generation fighter market that is starting to emerge.

The F-22 is in its role as an Air Superiority fighter a far better fighter.

But it remains blocked from exportation to any country by the US congress. Not ever watered down versions can be sold. Simply because of fear that any F-22 technology may fall into foreign hands.

This is IMO either stupid, because with Russia and China developing their own 5th generation fighters, the technology they may use could not differ so much of that of the F-22 in the short run.
Or it's simply functional to the F-35 scam.

These are just my views, but like many, I'm unhappy with the way the F-35 program has developed.
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012
I really think so too. After the Eurofighter Typhoon was barely entering mass production, I heard nothing about an European 5th generation fighter.

That being said, the so-called fear about technology falling into foreign hands is ridiculous as you said because the Chinese Chengdu J20 is being developed and the Russian PAK FA will likely be exported to India after it comes into mass production. With the PAK FA, we'll know sooner than later what it is capable of since it won't be an all-Russian secret and no one seems to mind that. Unlike what Russians and Americans say about the Chinese being 15 years behind, I am more weary about the prospect of a war involving China and their J20s, especially with the SOBs in North Korea.

In my book, the F-22 has the ability to be developed into an all-weather strike derivative just like the F-15 became over the years. My brother who's a big fan of Ace Combat: Assault Horizon once told me that it could be quite easy to develop missile systems so any fighter jet can be adapted into having different roles with some ingenuity. Some Congressmen obviously got bribed by the American Military Industrial complex to buy the F-35 program.
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Panzerfire Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah I got that feeling.

Because when one takes a look at it, the F-35 program's delays and flaws has been far more tolerated than those of many other programs that got cancelled.

I've heard that the F-35C's (The Carrier version for the US Navy) landing hook had to be re-designed because the prototype F-35C had a lot of problems trying to land succesfully in an aircraft carrier.
For me that sounds like something that should have been foreseen in the design stage. And this is not an old news, it's from within the past year.

Anyway, not every European country is signing up for the F-35. Countries such as Germany, France among others will retain 4-4.5 generation fighters like the Eurofighter Typhoon or the Dassault Rafale.

Eventually 'though plans will have to be drawn to develope a 5th generation fighter or simply skip towards development of a 6th generation fighter when current 3rd to 4.5th generation fighter and bomber fleets begin to be considered obsolete against American, Russian and Chinese fighters.

I mean, even Japan and South Korea have a 5th generation fighter program going on which while advacing slowly, it can likely give them with an indigenous 5th generation fighter by the 2020s.

India too has it's program ('Though it's closely related to the PAK FA so you say that Russia and India are in it together).
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CJManson Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
I believe the Japanese government chose the F-35 for a very good reason. They are wanting to use stealth data from the Lightning II for study and use on their in-development indigenous stealth fighter, the Mitsubishi ATD-X Shinshin project, meant to replace the JASDF's aging F-4EJ Phantom IIs, and (I think) eventually their F-15J Eagles.

They wanted to get their hands on the F-22 Raptor for stealth study (though initially for active use by the JASDF but couldn't due to the U.S. Congress banned the export of the Raptor), however, the Lightning II is the closest thing to the Raptor in terms of stealth for the Japanese government.

Though understandable, I would've preferred the JASDF get the Typhoon, especially since the Rafale had recently been selected by India to serve alongside the Sukhoi Su-30MKI, the Mikoyan MiG-35 Fulcrum-F and (within a few years) the PAK FA/FGFA, and the Mikoyan MiG-29K in the Indian Air Force and Indian Navy respectively. And Sweden's Saab JAS-39 Gripen seeing export for the South African Air Force, the Czech Air Force, and the Hugarian Air Force.

Though the Typhoon is still pretty much in the export race, with current exports to Austria and Saudi Arabia, and being considered by the Greek government (though the Greeks had originally agreed to acquire 60 Typhoons, but the order was canceled due to budget constraints, largely driven by the need to cover the cost of the 2004 Summer Olympics.)
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Panzerfire Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Greece buying new military hardware? With their economy on the break of complete utter collapse?

I don't know, I can't see it happening anytime soon.


And it's a good point you've made about the Japanese looking to study Stealth Technology from the Americans. I haven't thought about that I admit. But the F-35 could still get more expensive than it already is and take a lot more time to enter mass production, should new problems arise this year. More delays and more costs will only make possible export nations more uneasy about picking the F-35 and not a more cost-effective plane.
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ozu95supein Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012
what would a 6th generation fighter be like?
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Kira-Tsubasafan Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
The ATD-X project looks quite promising. I can't wait to see what it will look like in the final phase.

Speaking about the U.S. Congress, I still don't quite understand why they have issues with exporting the F-22 considering 1) the price the Japanese governemnt were willing to put on the table, 2) the fact that the Russian PAK FA won't be so secret anymore with the India/Russia deal, and 3) we have to consider that the Chinese are already building the Chengdu J-20 too. Nothing says the U.S. can't steal secrets from "rivals" (since we can't say enemies) and apply them into building planes.
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Panzerfire Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think the main worry about US technology falling into rival hands, is the possibillity of developing countermeasures or technologies that help reduce the effectiveness of the F-22 Hardware and Software. Cracking on US technology may also open the door to systems that can jam certain components of the F-22 and maybe even cause it to malfunction.

The bigger threat is not that Russia or China copy the F-22 to help develope their own 5th generation fighters or to make mere copies (In China's case), but to develope defences that will make the F-22 a less effective fighter.

Which come to think of it, it's actually a pretty darn good reason why the US won't let anyone get their hands so easily on the F-22.

Also, CJManson has made an excellent point by suggesting that what Japan is really after is access to US Stealth technology for it's ATD-X program.

The ATD-X is a Mistubishi Heavy Industries program. Gaining that kind of technology would help make Mitsubishi develope into a potential competitor in the 5th gen. fighter market in the near future. Which the US and other countries would prefer would not be the case, but current political and strategical conditions in eastern Asia may not leave the US with much choice but to export the F-35 to them.


The F-22 may still get made available for export in the near future if the US congress ban is lifted. It all depends on whether or not is more practical to sell the aircraft and its technology to allies than to keep the technology for its own use.
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